So. One doesn’t see a whole helluva lot on the subject of growing old around the blogosphere. I find this both normal and unusual, at the same time. The lack of discussion is “normal” because we live in the ultimate youth culture. There’s been frickin’ volumes written about this phenomenon elsewhere… let’s just take it as accepted wisdom and move on. No digressions in this space.
No one wants to grow old… it’s almost a crime by our current cultural standards. So, we get our botox injections, buy the Vette, go water skiing three times a week, or take a 3,000 mile motorcycle tour as a “vacation,” and pretend we’re still 40. Or 50. Whatever. But we’re NOT supposed to be old, ya know... we’re supposed to be “only as young as we feel.” So therefore we don’t talk about it… being old. That’s normal. I find it unusual, however, since I know the first wave of Boomers applied for Social Security this year. And Boomers have always been “all about me,” and me is old now. But… no comment from the Boomer cadre. This is really strange… I mean, what? Boomers are getting old and aren’t talking about it? How strange! Unless one stops and considers the Boomers almost single-handedly created the Youth Culture (see: that trite and immediately shop-worn ‘70s phrase “Don’t trust anyone over 30!”) and find themselves in a position where they can’t possibly say “Never mind!” and begin singing the praises of aging. Or even talk about aging in an observational sort of way. Bad place, that. Thus they (we?) seem to be “Forever Young,” as Bobby sang.
Well… I’m gonna change that. I’m gonna talk a lil bit about getting old. No big-ass essays or anything like that, coz that’s not me. I’m basically superficial and get more out of dialog than I do from exposition. So… that’s a sort of left-handed way of soliciting your comments on these random musings, if you’re “of a certain age.” Or even if you’re not. Coz we’re all gonna be there eventually, Lord Willing and the creek don’t rise.
So. To begin this discussion I thought I’d google “thoughts on aging.” I found this… an interesting laundry list… written by a man who “recently turned 50.” Let’s set aside the fact I passed 50 well over ten years ago and don’t think of that age as “old” any longer. Let’s just say there’s a lot in the linked list I don’t or can’t relate to… mostly the itemized physical ailment(s)… but there are other things, too. It’s a good list, and I urge you to go check it out. That said… I most definitely relate to this:
I seem to be turning into a dirty old man. Almost every woman under the age of forty now appears attractive. Since I'm sure there hasn't been a massive change in the beauty of American women, it's my evaluation of them that's changed. Friends who are the same age say the same thing is happening to them; one of them commented, "The older I get, the more beautiful women are."
I relate alright, but with one minor twist: I find women over 40 to be attractive… nay… irresistible. That’s not to say I don’t appreciate “the younger form,” Gentle Reader… far from it. My interest is more academic where younger women are concerned, though. My mind wanders much further a field when I see a well-turned-out older woman. Specifically: one over 40 — and most especially… over 50. Perhaps this academic/“other” thought dichotomy is a sub-conscious rationalization mechanism, i.e., thinking “there’s NO frickin’ way” whenever I see a sweet young thang. But I think not. I think we perceive potential mates (rationally… as in: relationships; or irrationally… as in Wal-Mart daydreams) in an entirely different way as we age. The slings and arrows of time doing their work (or worst, depending on your POV) on the female form become something different to an older viewer. Your “sag” becomes my “curve” (and I use that term in the best way possible. Draw your own conclusions.) Your facial “age lines” tell me your experience and character left favorable impressions upon your face… and that doesn’t even consider your history of laughter. Your eyes are knowing, not seeking or questioning. I could go on (and ON), but… you get the picture, right? There’s everything to be said for maturity (on many different levels), not the least of which is physical (I am male, after all).
Which brings me to my next and final point. I seriously wish women would quit trying to fuck with time, as in fight a losing rear-guard action with it. That’s a war you can’t win. Rather: accept it. And accept it gracefully. Older women are simply frickin’ beautiful; there’s no real or perceived need to delay or reverse what you’ve become in the hope of remaining what you were. You wouldn’t want to reverse your intellectual or emotional development and revert to being age 25, would you? So if you’re not gonna mess with the contents, why mess with the box? Besides… most men like you as you are, which is to say not-25; the great majority of men who appear to think otherwise are simply buying in to what’s expected of us. Leave us not get into just who sets these expectations, mmm-kay? Let’s just chalk it up to cultural conditioning, and leave it at that.
Thus endeth today’s sermon. Shorter: I like Ol’ Ladies.
The image: My Senator… The Honorable Kay Bailey Hutchison. (Wikipedia)
Update 9/17/2008, 1405 hrs: Deborah, in comments, sez: “You and Benjamin Franklin.” Ah...yes! Ol' Ben wrote one of my favorite pieces on this subject, ever. And here it is, in the event you're unfamiliar with it:
June 25, 1745
MY DEAR FRIEND:- I know of no Medicine fit to diminish the violent natural inclination you mention; and if I did, I think I should not communicate it to you. Marriage is the proper Remedy. It is the most natural State of Man, and therefore the State in which you will find solid Happiness. Your Reason against entering into it at present appears to be not well founded. The Circumstantial Advantages you have in View by Postponing it, are not only uncertain, but they are small in comparison with the Thing itself, the being married and settled. It is the Man and Woman united that makes the complete Being. Separate she wants his force of Body and Strength of Reason; he her Softness, Sensibility and acute Discernment. Together they are most likely to succeed in the World. A single Man has not nearly the Value he would have in that State of Union. He is an incomplete Animal. He resembles the odd Half of a Pair of Scissors.
If you get a prudent, healthy wife, your Industry in your Profession, with her good Economy, will be a Fortune sufficient.
But if you will not take this Counsel, and persist in thinking that Commerce with the Sex is inevitable, then I repeat my former Advice that in your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. This you call a Paradox, and demand my reasons. They are these:
1. Because they have more Knowledge of the world, and their Minds are better stored with Observations; their conversation is more improving, and more lastingly agreeable.
2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, they study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Man, they supply the Diminution of Beauty by an Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do a thousand Services, small and great, and are the most tender and useful of Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such a thing to be found as an Old Woman who is not a good Woman.
3. Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience.
4. Because through more Experience they are more prudent and discreet in conducting an Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your reputation; and regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be inclined to excuse an old Woman, who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his manners by her good Councils, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes.
5. Because in every Animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part. The Face first grows lank and Wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower parts continuing to the last as plump as ever; so that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old one from a young one. And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable by improvement.
6. Because the sin is less. The Debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her Life unhappy.
7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend making an old Woman happy.
8. 8th & lastly. They are so grateful!!!
Thus much for my Paradox. But still I advise you to marry immediately; being sincerely
Your Affectionate Friend, Benj. Franklin
Apropos of not much... I find it both amusing and gratifying that one of our greatest Founding Fathers (ahem) was considered to be among the leading womanizers of the age. I use the term “womanizer” in its best sense... if there is a best sense... and in no way intend to be demeaning. One could say “appreciative,” just as easily.
Thanks for reminding me of this, Deborah.
I see again and again that people of both genders who remain active, both physically and mentally, truly stay "young." I hope to have plenty of energy and a sharp mind as I grow older, and I'm going to do everything I can to make it so.
ReplyDeleteThere is something to be said of leaving behind the brashness, uncertainty, and struggles of youth to discover, savor, and enjoy knowing how to "be" with someone, appreciate each and every moment, and understand that it's chemistry and much more that makes the world turn!
ReplyDeleteFireFox said it! Age isn't but a number - however I don't want to dismiss my own life experiences in a vain and ridiculous attempt to hold onto my youth.
ReplyDeleteMy youth - sucked. I'm 45 now and so far, my 40s have been the best possible time of my life.I never said that about my 20s or 30s. Those were decades to be endured.
If my 50s turn out half as good as my 40s have been - bring em on baby!
And Buck - HAIL to thee for your comments about stopping time. Every wrinkle I have or will get is a testament to an experience, for good or bad. Why deny myself the right to SEE those experiences writ on my face.
Can't wait to read your next discussion on this topic - good stuff there!
Well, of course, any series of random thoughts on aging may be continuing. That's the risk you take when you age ;-)
ReplyDeleteAs for older women (I prefer the term "fully matured") I agree 100%. There is nothing quite so beautiful as a woman who accepts herself, whatever that self may be.
Suddenly single in my late thirties, I realized with equal suddenness that my next paramour would have to be selected with a minimum, and I mean a granite-hard minimum, age in mind. Thank God. What a gem of a 36-year-old (now 40) I managed to snag. She somehow seems to think the deal worked out well for her too.
ReplyDeleteIf I was detached yet again, and forced to go shopping in Logan's City of Domes in which nobody's over thirty...I dunno what I'd do. It seems nothing between my ears interests them too much, and nothing nestled in their craniums has much appeal to me either.
The joints howling in protest after a demanding exercise regimen, that was probably the toughest adjustment. This one was the second-toughest, that there are entire *age brackets* of people who have nothing in common with me. And then all this hair in my nose & ears would be a distant third.
I swing in here, a scant 33 years old, but fresh from a physical therapy appointment because I can't climb stairs without pulling a muscle anymore. I don't know what my point is - "old" is relative, I guess. Or at least "getting older" is. At some point you are inextricably old, though, and what you wind up with is a decision concerning whether you are ok with that, or instead are going to stuff your lying ass into spandex for a yoga class that you think is going to save you from something you aren't suffering from.
ReplyDeleteAnd really, why is everyone in such a hurry to be younger than they are? Have you met anyone younger than you that you like (family excluded)(sometimes)?
Christina sez: I hope to have plenty of energy and a sharp mind as I grow older, and I'm going to do everything I can to make it so.
ReplyDeleteGood on ya, Christina. The "mind" thing is just about the ONLY thing that worries me about aging. One can and does adjust to the changes aging brings in all other areas. But there's nothing ya can do when the mind goes...
Alison: You sound like my ex-Mom-in-law, and I mean that in a GOOD way. She'd tell anyone who would listen (and more than a few who wouldn't) ALL about the wonderfulness of "maturity," as she put it. I kinda smirked at the time, but have come to realize she was much more than right.
Kris sez: If my 50s turn out half as good as my 40s have been - bring em on baby!
Well... judging from your attitude and self-description, I'd say you're not gonna be disappointed, Kris.
Morgan sez: It seems nothing between my ears interests them too much, and nothing nestled in their craniums has much appeal to me either.
Funny how that works, eh? There MUST be exceptions to this rule, though. Look at Kissinger and Greenspan, just to name two high-powered guys who married women young enough to be their daughters. There had to be SOMETHING in their brides' intellect dept to attract them, dontcha think?
re: ear/nose hair. I've learned how to shave my frickin' ears, and that's a skill associated with old age that I never anticipated learning. Gad.
Andy sez: And really, why is everyone in such a hurry to be younger than they are? Have you met anyone younger than you that you like (family excluded)(sometimes)?
Oh, yes... on your last. That happens quite frequently. This is gonna sound self-contradicting, but I have a track record of being the oldest in any of my groups of friends (with the understanding I moved around a lot in life and made new friends and acquaintances in each location). Well, "had" would be more appropriate... as I'm a very solitary person these days. But most of my friends are still younger than me today, by ten years or more. With two very notable exceptions.
Jim sez: Well, of course, any series of random thoughts on aging may be continuing. That's the risk you take when you age ;-)
ReplyDeleteUmmm... I coulda gone all day without reading THAT, ya know! ;-)
You and Benjamin Franklin.
ReplyDeleteThanks for reminding me of Franklin's "In Praise of Older Women," Deborah. Duly quoted on the main page.
ReplyDeleteHmmmm...maybe this suddenly single 42-year-old woman should get out of the house and test your theory.
ReplyDeleteI think its OK to be old. I'm 65+, still working, still able to climb the steel although slower, still able to stay on top of my trade. Blood pressure and cholesterol under control (with meds-7 pills a day), like 8 hours of sleep but usually get 4. Have to get up a couple times at night, etc. Although all the problems are aggravating I’m OK with it. As a senior I have different rules to go by, I drive more carefully as I know I’m slower to react. I’m more careful on my mo’cycle than I was in the past. My bride and I still enjoy our “bedroom sports”. She says I’m still as randy as ever although I think I’m a little slow to get started but I don’t need any pharmaceutical assistance, I would if it became necessary though. Still love my mischief.
ReplyDeleteOn the negative side I’m much less tolerant of younger people. It’s probably because I see in them the mistakes I made in my youth. Some, at work use the term “testy” or “grouchy” but they ask for it. I miss the flexibility of my younger days as I’m pretty creaky now. I also know where I’m at on the scale of life so I try to live each day to the fullest and never, ever leave the house or go to sleep without telling my bride that I love her……
So all in all I’m OK with getting older.
Bye the way, I can identify with almost everything on the "Laundry List" Unfortunately.
Amy sez: Hmmmm...maybe this suddenly single 42-year-old woman should get out of the house and test your theory.
ReplyDeleteThere's NO doubt in my military-mind that you'll find what I say to be true. Assuming you ain't hangin' with the skater-boy crowd. ;-)
Dan sez: I think its OK to be old.
Indeed it is, especially considering the alternative. ;-)
I'm glad you went and looked at the "laundry list," Dan. I was afraid most folks wouldn't.
I agree with you on being less tolerant of younger people... although I find my tolerance has improved by an order of magnitude as I've grown older. Generally speaking. I was oh-so-quick to be be dismissive of attitudes divergent from my own in my youth... as you may or may not remember, but I suspect you DO... remember.
As for the rest of that laundry list... I've been blessed with good health (beyond belief) in the opening stages of my dotage, dental travails aside. And I appear to be remarkably free of other "downsides," as well. But that's only MY perspective. I'm sure others who know me might disagree. ;-)
Very nice post. I totally agree about our youth obsessed culture. I hate that phrase "40 is the new 20". What the heck is wrong with being 40? There is a certain depth of character that can only come with experience, which can only come with age.
ReplyDeleteI'm not so sure I agree with you about men finding older women still attractive. That has certainly not been the case in my experience.
I think you are the exception, rather than the rule, in that regard.
Buck, I've sent Ben's advice to many a friend. Think I may even have a post about it somewhere on my site. At any rate, couldn't help but connect his reason number three, "Because there is no hazard of children, which irregularly produced may be attended with much inconvenience," with this condom ad. Enjoy.
ReplyDeleteWell. Buck.
ReplyDeleteWhen I saw the topic, I hesitated to read it....OH NO! .... was it going to be some feeling-sorry-for-ourselves because we are aging? Bad jokes about old women...and old men.
Instead...your whole post was really cool, Buck ... and made me feel good.
In fact, feeling good is what it's all about. I'm 62, and certainly not what I was ten or twenty or thirty years ago, but I still feel great, keeping healthy and in good shape physically is my priority, keeping my mind sharp and continuing to learn new things, is keeping me young. Well no ... not young really; I was already young once; I don't want to be what I used to be any more ... now I am learning to be comfortable with myself as I am NOW - aging but happy, older physically but young at heart.
I'm glad you like old ladies; I am finding I like old men too. LOL
Thanks for a lot to think about....
I think that I need to print out a couple of your paragraphs and tape them to my mirror, because I have laughed a lot in my life :)
ReplyDeleteI definitely wouldn't want to go back to my 20's, and I think that I'm really going to enjoy my 40's.
Great post!
Becky sez: I'm not so sure I agree with you about men finding older women still attractive. That has certainly not been the case in my experience.
ReplyDeleteUmmm... Becky. Let me remind you: You live in Mrs. Hippy. Things are different there.
::He ducks.::He RUNS::
But seriously... I may be an exception, but my experience leads me to believe otherwise.
Doc sez: Enjoy.
I most certainly DID! Thanks!
Sharon sez: I'm glad you like old ladies; I am finding I like old men too. LOL
Thanks for a lot to think about....
Hey... older men are cool. To a certain extent, of course. There ARE certain areas where young men have "advantages," but ya know what they say about "old age and treachery..."
And thank you for the kind words!
Susan sez: ... because I have laughed a lot in my life :)
That's a great way to put it, Susan. Character. Priceless.
About the (your) 40s... arguably the best decade in life. It seemed to be so for me, anyway... it all just came together. And then promptly fell apart the following decade, LOL!
It's all in perspective. I have always looked younger than my age. When people found out the age of my son, they would say no way. But when I was not dating, I felt old, as in "I'm old now, best years are over, nobody is going to want me now". But fortunately that changed.
ReplyDeleteI had never read the Franklin piece (pun intended). I found it quite amusing.
i may have been cuter at 20 or 30, but I was not very smart. Me today is vastly superior in all the ways that matter. I'll be 43 in 3 weeks, and I'm pretty happy to be able to say I'm better now than half my life ago, despite the effects of gravity!
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