I grabbed the remote and changed over to the WX Channel.
So. I got curious later and went looking for source documentation on this F-22 thingie at CAGW’s web site. Here’s what the Pig Book says about the F-22:
$1,190,000,000 for full funding of 20 F-22A fighter jets; this barrel of pork is so big that Congress will not even spend it all in one year. The bill funds 20 F-22s per year until 2009. The F-22 was originally designed as an air superiority fighter for use against the Soviet Air Force. Before Congress put the ink on the check, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) sent a 13-page letter on
I think the Air Force might disagree with this. Maybe. Here’s Lt. Gen Ray Johns, quoted in this month’s Air Force Magazine:
Buying the new fighters is “critical,” according to Lt. Gen. Raymond E. Johns Jr., deputy chief of staff for strategic plans and programs.
“While extending the service life of legacy aircraft meets some niche requirements,” they will find it increasingly tough to get past modern integrated air defense systems, Johns said.
“It’s critical that we keep production of our fifth generation fighters on track, ensuring sufficient quantities” to preserve the
Nevertheless, there just aren’t enough F-22s or F-35s on order to meet all the Air Force’s commitments, which for the fighter force involves the ability to fight up to two nearly simultaneous major theater wars as well as ensuring sovereignty over US airspace.
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The QDR also specified 183 F-22s, versus the Air Force’s long-validated requirement for 381. All agree the smaller figure was driven by monetary constraints and not by strategy.
“We still need and want 381,” Johns said, but he said the lower figure is “not ... a crisis to me” because the decision on whether to go beyond 183 will take place beyond the current planning cycle, in 2010. The Air Force succeeded in winning Congressional approval to buy the F-22 on a multiyear contract basis, getting three lots of 20 each. In Fiscal 2010, when the multiyear expires, the Air Force hopes to get approval to buy at least 20 more. The decision point will come beyond the term of the Bush Administration, which set the 183 limit.
The USAF is “extending the lives of 1980s vintage fighters” (F-15, F-16, A-10) in order to compensate for not getting the fighters we need. Some of the ‘80s fighters’ lives will be extended until 2030, making our fighter aircrews go to war in 50-year-old airframes. Now there’s a confidence-inspiring move.
I’m all for cutting real pork. But organizations such as CAGW don’t do themselves any favors, nor do they gain support, by advocating cuts in military programs when it’s patently obvious they don’t know what the Hell they’re talking about. And especially when they throw around bogus numbers to substantiate their points. Specifically: regarding the cost of the F-22 vs. the F-35:
In 2014, when production reaches about 21 airplanes per month, the F-35A will cost $48 million a copy. The F-35B and F-35C will cost $62 million and $63 million, respectively. By comparison, the Eurofighter Typhoon—probably JSF’s closest foreign competitor—costs more than $95 million and the F-22 is expected to come in at an average of about $120 million by the time production winds up in 2010.
CAGW overstates the F-22 costs and the F-35 costs are understated. But Hey! You substantiate your points however you can. Popular Science is a great authority on fighter procurement, I suppose. God only knows how much better they are than, say, USAF generals who are responsible for fighting the nation’s air wars and ensuring our front-line fighters are world-class.
(About the image: Titled "Hunters" this piece of art was created by Ken Chandler and downloaded from the official USAF web site. You can download the hi-res version of this painting here.)
The F-22 sure is purty.
ReplyDeleteThe F-22 sure is purty.
ReplyDeleteProving that you can, indeed, put lipstick on a pig.
:-)
Speaking of those generals, I'm hoping that there is going to be a revolt of the generals soon, shades of the USN's 1950's "Revolt of the Admirals." The USAF has gotten shafted for far too long, and this longstanding B.S. about 183 Raptors is the last straw. (Well, that and the tanker issue. And the tactical transport issue. And the C-17 issue. And the CSAR-X issue. And the persistent attempts to raise the cost of the F-35 by cutting the number of the early production. And the 50+ year old bomber issue.)
ReplyDeleteLike I said, the USAF has gotten the shaft for a while now.
I wish we could have a nice little trip down fantasy lane for our policy makers, shades of "It's a Wonderful Life," just so they can see how much life would suck without the Air Force.
I think I'm smelling a blog post out of this...
Mike sez: I think I'm smelling a blog post out of this...
ReplyDeletea la "It's A Wonderful Life?" THAT would be pretty cool!
And, nice laundry list of issues. We (USAF) kinda shot ourselves in the foot over the tankers, but the rest of your list are points well-taken. Re: the CSAR-X...I was somewhat taken aback when I learned we'd chosen the HH-47 as the replacement CSAR helo. I know things can be done to update an old airframe, but dang...the Chinook is old, like nearly as old as I am. And that's OLD.
Makes one wonder...
Ya gotta remember that nobody needs the military until the harbor is bombed and the enemy is in the back yard. Sometimes just the appearance of one of our aircraft is enough to deter an aggressive act. Imagine being a bad guy flying around, up to no good, and remembering that a double deuce can get ya from 20 miles away. That will get your seat wet.
ReplyDeleteThat's the problem Dan. We're a victim of our own success. The last time an American soldier came under air attack was over 50 years, 5 wars, and countless police actions ago. (Korea, for those of you keeping count.) Look at the talk when it comes to bombing Iran. There is absolutely no question that we can kick the door down and establish not just air superiority, but air dominance. It's just a question of whether or not we can find all the necessary targets.
ReplyDeleteThe thing about CSAR-X isn't necessarily the choice of the HH-47 (it is an old design, but the HH-47 will be a new build aircraft; kind of analogous to if we started building new B-52s. It's an old design, but it is still functional. The issue isn't the fact that the design itself is old, it's the age of the airframes themselves. Anyway.) The issue with CSAR-X is the fact that Lock-Mart and Sikorsky pitched a huge shit fit after Boeing got the contract and went and whined to the GAO, so now the contract is on hold.
And the USAF continues to fly its old, small, and underpowered HH-60s.
Also, I would agree with the assessment on the tankers up to a point, but the GAO isn't making things any easier:
ReplyDeletehttp://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?view=CN&storyID=2007-03-06T223059Z_01_N06429890_RTRIDST_0_BOEING-NORTHROP-TANKERS-UPDATE-2.XML&rpc=66&type=qcna
Here's a link to a story about the GAO and CSAR-X:
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=basicIndustries&storyID=2007-03-07T200427Z_01_N07226663_RTRIDST_0_SP_PAGE_023-N07226663-OISBI.XML
Ah, silly me. Forgot to format the links properly. Let's try again.
ReplyDeleteCSAR-X here
Tanker stuff here
Thanks for the links, Mike. I have a real, albeit emotional, problem with USAF flying Airbus tankers. And EADS ain't doin' so hot, of late. The situation is likely to get a lot worse before it gets better. They won't go under, but there will be strikes, production delays, etc. etc. Not a good thing when procuring strategic assets. I'm VERY surprised Northrop partnered with EADS on this bid...
ReplyDeleteThe GAO sure seems to have some sort of agenda lately, eh? For a non-partisan kinda org, anyway.