Here’s Mr. Drum’s post, in its entirety:
1. It sparks unusually vicious comment threads, something this blog hardly needs since comments here spin out of control often enough anyway. Needless to say, this phenomenon is fairly universal. For examples, see here and here.
(In case you're curious, the other subjects that seem to spawn more venom than usual are posts related to religion or feminism.)
2. The fight between
(NB: This may be a plausible excuse for inaction coming from a pundit or a blogger, but it's worth pointing out that it's not a plausible excuse for a president of the
3. The conflict is fantastically complex, and the partisans on both sides are mostly people who have been following events with fanatical attention to detail for many decades. Ordinary observers can hardly compete in this atmosphere — do you know the detailed history and long-accepted norms of behavior that have developed in the conflict over the Shebaa Farms since 1967? — and this has produced an almost codelike language of its own over the years. One misuses this code at ones peril (see #5 below).
4. As with the conflict itself, punditry is heavily dominated by extremists on both sides. I normally take my cues on subjects I'm inexpert in from people whose sensibilities are similar to mine, but it's nearly impossible to figure out who those people might be in this case.
5. Related to 1 and 3, posts that display any sense of sympathy for the Palestinians run the risk of provoking a shitstorm of accusations of anti-semitism. (I gather that the opposite is more frequently the case in
I guess that's about it. As usual, however, I'd add that liberals have a bigger problem here than conservatives. As near as I can tell, most conservatives simply take the uncomplicated stance that Palestinians are terrorists and that
Of course, in the same email Matt pointed out that "you can't hermetically seal
Fair enough, and a good beginning. Mr. Drum’s liberal bona fides are well known, and since he’s speaking strictly for himself, for the most part, I’ll take him at his word. I even find myself in agreement with three of his five points (points 2, 3, and 4). After all, it’s only been two days since I put up my first post, ever, on the Israeli – Palestinian conflict; in that post I maintained everyone has already chosen their side on this issue; and I tacitly admitted I have only superficial knowledge, i.e., what I glean from the MSM, of the issue(s). But I think perhaps there’s a little bit more to explain the Left’s reticence to comment on this issue.
First of all, only the bravest of souls on the Left wants to be the first into the pool with an opinion that may, just may, contradict mainstream liberal thought. Lefties are sensitive types, and they are especially sensitive to what their peers think of them. Consequently, in the absence of guidance from the Big Dogs (you can read that as talking points issued by the DNC, DLC, Pelosi, Reid, or Kerry, just to name a few; and to a lesser extent, the Big Dog Blogs), it’s a rare Lefty that will sail off on his own into uncharted waters. Why? Because the Left eats its own; dissent is not tolerated. Why risk excommunication? The powers-that-be on the Left have been, up to this point, largely silent. Matthew Yglesias:
Meanwhile, I totally understand why establishment liberal foreign policy types don't like to talk about
Groupthink doesn’t work well at all when it doesn’t know what to think.
Second, and related to my first point, no Lefty wants to be seen as agreeing with the Bush administration, ever, either explicitly or implicitly. Were a Lefty to blog something as benign as acknowledging the threat Hezbollah/Syria/Iran represents, or Heaven Forbid!, speculating there may, indeed, be something to the theory Iran is behind this recent Mid-East escalation, that poor soul would be drawn and quartered in their comments section and bashed in other, more orthodox Lefty blogs. This hypothetical blogger would be buying into the administration’s “march to war” and wouldn’t even have to mention Dubya, the connection would be assumed or divined.
Lastly, and Mr. Drum mentioned this in passing, the Left can’t offer an alternative to the status quo when it comes to US policy towards Israel and the Palestinians, let alone Iran (unless one considers capitulation and accommodation as viable alternatives). But, you say, the lack of alternatives hasn’t stopped them from criticizing our
Related to 1 and 3, posts that display any sense of sympathy for the Palestinians run the risk of provoking a shitstorm of accusations of anti-semitism.
Wow. I've read a few comments on this thread agreeing with this and I just have no idea where it comes from. Either online or in real life, when talking to fellow liberals I am often the only one to defend
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In closing I suggest you read the extensive comments to Mr. Drum’s post. They are illuminating.
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