Monday, January 08, 2007

Just Another Manic Monday...

Michael Barone states the obvious: A Bitter clash is coming over Iraq.” Interestingly, he opens with this thought:

Cynics surely found the words of good will exchanged by the new speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and the new House minority leader, John Boehner, at the opening session of the new Congress to be hypocritical and insincere. The two leaders are grizzled veteran pols, after all, who have not been known to be on close, much less candid, terms with each other over the years. But I know them both, and I believe they were speaking genuinely from the heart.

Count me as one of those cynics. I attempted to watch the House opening ceremonies last week (twice, even: once in real time and once in a re-run) but simply could not. Mr. Barone has a leg up on me, though, as he knows the individuals involved and I only know them through what I’ve seen on the Tee Vee and read in the media. But, yeah…Pelosi’s remarks, in particular, struck me as very hypocritical. So much so that I voted with my feet the remote and changed channels.

Mr. Barone continues:

Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid have made it clear that they take the Democratic victory last November as a mandate for withdrawal from Iraq. That's a point you could argue with -- you could make a case from the polls that what voters want most of all is victory and success. But Pelosi and Reid and almost all of their Democratic colleagues are sincere in their view, which is at the least plausible.

George W. Bush, from all accounts, seems to take a different view. He evidently sees the November result as a verdict of dissatisfaction with unsuccess and lack of victory, and so is promising a "new way forward." He has been prompted by his party's "thumpin'" to change the way he manages.

I agree with the President’s view, if that is indeed the way Dubya views things. Madame Pelosi and Mssr. Reid ought to tread very carefully here. Misunderestimating the American public’s opinion, which, to my way of thinking, is much more about the lack of success in Iraq than the fact we’re still there. Americans simply hate to lose. And that goes double when the stakes are so high. I’m sure at least some of the Dems realize their majority is a fragile thing and could be lost every bit as quickly as it was gained.

Related… Today’s featured article (A Heavier Iraq ‘Footprint’) on the WSJ’s Opinion Journal site. Excerpt:

If the stakes in Iraq are as great as Mr. Bush says--and we believe they are--then he should commit whatever forces are needed to achieve success. The public's support for the Iraq campaign is waning, in major part because the casualties and expense have been producing no visible progress. Even with Democrats running Congress, Mr. Bush has a political window to pursue a more robust security strategy. The paradox is that the fastest way home from Iraq is a bolder commitment now.

On that score, it is appropriate that Mr. Bush is replacing his Iraq military team. Centcom Commander John Abizaid, who is retiring, can point to successful campaigns to topple the Taliban in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq. His oft-derided "light footprint" strategy for securing Iraq has also been right for much of the country, with Kurdistan able to handle its own security and southern Iraq now transitioning to Iraqi control.

But General Abizaid and ground commander George Casey--who is leaving for a Pentagon post--never found the formula for the insurgent-troubled Sunni areas, and in recent months for Shiite death squads in Baghdad.

There’s much more, and it’s all good.

So…didja see P.J. on “In Depth” yesterday (video here)? I watched the whole three hours; some of it twice when the show was re-run at midnite (ET) last evening. The interview was every bit as good as I thought it would be, and for once my great expectations didn’t result in a great disappointment. I was disappointed to find Mr. O’Rourke holds bloggers, and blogging, in contempt, describing blogs as “free. And worth it.” and “‘What I did on my summer vacation,’ for adults.” Another revelation that didn’t surprise me is P.J. hates to write, stating that writing is hard work. That’s something of a no-brainer when you write for a living, and I relate to that sentiment from experience. He also added, in an off-hand way, that he suspected only bloggers really enjoy writing. True enough, I suppose. I do enjoy the writing I do for the blog.

One of the better lines from the interview: P.J., who was raised in a Republican household, quoting his grandmother’s response to his question about the difference between Republicans and Democrats: “Democrats rent.”

Mr. O’Rourke is something of a Luddite, freely admitting he doesn’t use the internet and does all his writing on an IBM Selectric, of which he owns “at least five.” Damn, P.J….you need to come into the 21st century! It’s nice in here!

This is both amusing and sad…

THE "DIRTY DOZEN" list of "America's Most Bizarre and Politically Correct College Courses" is out — and Los Angeles-area institutions of higher learning have walked away with one-fourth of the ranked honors (or dishonors). Occidental College, an 1,800-student liberal arts school in Eagle Rock, is the only college on the list to collect not one but two citations for excellence at offering trendy theories of gender, skin color and white-male oppression at the expense of actual academic content.

I laughed, I cried. What the Hell ever happened to Basket Weaving?

And so it goes…

18 comments:

  1. Buck ... if sending more and more and more troops to Vietnam only resulted in the ugly atrocity we now understand that it was, what on earth makes anyone think that doing the same thing in Iraq will produce different results?

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  2. This ought to be interesting....

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  3. Lori said: if sending more and more and more troops to Vietnam only resulted in the ugly atrocity we now understand that it was, what on earth makes anyone think that doing the same thing in Iraq will produce different results?

    Because, Lori, Iraq is not Viet Nam.

    Did you read that WSJ op-ed? If not, I'll quote a small part of it:

    ...there are many serious people who believe success is still achievable in Iraq. They include retired four-star General Jack Keane and military historian Fred Kagan, who recently worked with some of the military's brightest officers to suggest a plan to secure Baghdad under the auspices of the American Enterprise Institute. Among those officers is Colonel H.R. McMaster, the mastermind of the Tal Afar campaign. The President's two most important political allies on Iraq, Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman, also both believe more troops will make a difference.

    I happen to be one of those "serious people."

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  4. Wow, Buck, great minds...I have to agree that the American people want to win. They need to see success (the MSM could really be helpful here if they would). Mili-bloggers have been giving us success stories - Yeha for bloggers!

    TF Boggs at boredsoldier.blogspot.com is home from Iraq and starting back to college which he calls "Liberal U". He has an interesting story about it. Somehow, I doubt he takes "Phallus 101".

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  5. lori,in my opinion, Vietnam was never intended to be a military victory. Had the military been allowed to do its job we would have been out of there much sooner, successfully, and at much less cost. Those who have never been in battle do not know how to battle, in my opinion.

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  6. Thanks for the link, Lou. Interesting!

    I agree with you, Dan. But I didn't agree at the time, if you remember. You and Lori are perhaps the only folks that remember me from my moonbat days. Well, Ed, too...

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  7. Bec says: I appreciate so much how many wise people there are who have served in our military - including you Buck!

    And that would be Lori, too, Bec. Assuming this is *my* Lori (and I'm pretty sure it is...), we met at Fortuna Air Force Station back in '77...she was a two-striper and I was a Tech Sergeant. We became fast friends, and that friendship has lasted even tho I "changed sides" and she has not. I still hold out hope, though... coz Lori is pretty damned smart! :-)

    Gonna go chase your links now...

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  8. Further (or: Further!)...

    In the latter, points 4, 6, 8 & 10 are the crux of why I look at the Vietnam War differently now than I did all of my life before.


    Spot-on, Bec. If you're drawing analogies between Viet Nam and Iraq, then the points concerning themselves with the Information War and "the will to fight" are MOST certainly appropriate. We're losing the Info War in Iraq, pure and simple. And way too many Americans have lost the will to fight already.

    Not good.

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  9. Buck wrote, of me:

    We became fast friends, and that friendship has lasted even tho I "changed sides" and she has not. I still hold out hope, though... coz Lori is pretty damned smart! :-)

    Thanks for the compliment, Buck. However, I can't see me changing sides anytime soon, or ever. Here I am, approaching 50, and I'm just as moderate-to-liberal as ever (still believe in the death penalty and actually think it should be an option for other violent crimes, in retrospect believe Ford did do the right thing when he pardoned Nixon, and I happily pay my taxes even though -- or maybe because? -- I don’t make all that much money). I'm still a registered Dem, and I generally vote for candidates from my party.

    How old were you when you “jumped the fence?” Is it an age-wisened thing? Will I hit 55 and return to my Ohio roots and change parties? (Both my parents were registered Repubs, although I don’t think either could’ve said why, other than it was what everyone else around them did and certainly was what their employers expected. However my Mom, who was employed by The Timken Company, often voted for the non-Repub candidate. Dad was a bigot who voted for Wallace in ‘68.)

    Being an out lesbian who supports the legalization of marijuana and who abhors the integration of church and state, somehow I doubt I’ll make the switch. : )

    Prior to the above, Buck shared, from the WSJ op-ed:

    "The President's two most important political allies on Iraq, Senators John McCain and Joe Lieberman, also both believe more troops will make a difference."

    I haven't read the op-ed. I will try to read it later tonight. However, the only positive things I can really say about McCain and Lieberman are that they are at least consistent. I actually have some respect for McCain (mainly due to his status as a former POW), but I think Lieberman is a flaming ... oh nevermind. I just don't understand why he persists in trying to identify as a Democrat ("independent" or otherwise).

    As for being "serious," I don't think I'm any less serious about this subject than anyone else. One of the things I dislike about so many Republicans is their arrogant attitude that implies that anyone who disagrees with them is less than serious or is immature.

    Dan wrote:

    lori,in my opinion, Vietnam was never intended to be a military victory.

    I’m not convinced that Iraq was ever intended to be anymore of a military victory than was Vietnam. I’ve always believed in the marrow of my bones that this is about oil, money, and power. The longer we stay in Iraq, the more money there is to be made by certain people and their companies. That translates into power, of course. Unfortunately, the longer we stay, the more bodies all sides will bury. When does that particular price become too high?

    I think the difference between myself and most of you is that y’all probably have supported Bush and his people from the beginning. Although I was the executive assistant to David Frum (the author of the “axis of evil” phrase, as well as the book "The Right Man: The Surprise Presidency of George W. Bush"), when Bush ran in 2000, I didn’t support Bush then and I certainly didn’t support him in 2004. He makes me want to scream.

    (Frum and his ilk made me want to scream, too, which is why I stopped working for the Manhattan Institute in February 2001. I just couldn’t stand it any longer, and I felt like I was whoring myself to the wrong side.)

    For me, the bottom line is that this war was predicated upon lies, it feels like a monumental waste, and I don’t feel one whit safer than I did prior to 9/11/2001. If anything, I feel less safe, and increasingly sad that the administration believes (or, at the least, wishes to sell the idea) that we’re going to “kick ass” in Iraq by sending more troops. I don’t think this war is winnable. Like Vietnam, we don’t seem to understand our enemy very well at all.

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  10. How old were you when you “jumped the fence?” Is it an age-wisened thing? Will I hit 55 and return to my Ohio roots and change parties?

    LOL, Lori! Well, I was 54 when it happened to me so Someday Maybe it'll happen to you, too... Just kidding. It's all in how you look at things, I guess. My folks were Dems until Nixon. They loved Reagan and have been Republicans ever since. I have been a staunch Democrat all my life up until one year ago and I suddenly went through this odd transformation where Bush stopped looking like a raving idiot and became an earnest protector of the Free World.
    How did this happen? I have NO IDEA.
    Actually it was Maha who did it. I was in a closet full of liberal know-it-alls at her blog and just couldn't stand it anymore! They must be related to the Republican know-it-alls you know. :)

    To paraphrase Buck, just read and research both sides and keep an open mind. Who knows. By the time you're 55, you might be on our side of the fence. Or maybe not. But it's great you and Buck can still be friends.

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  11. How old were you when you “jumped the fence?” Is it an age-wisened thing?

    I started making the switch at 35 when I voted for Reagan, but it wasn't really complete until five years later (1985) when I moved to Detroit and saw, first hand, what long-time and consistent damage liberals can do... in this case, to a city.

    Being an out lesbian who supports the legalization of marijuana...

    Two words: Mary Cheney. (I know you think she's the Devil's Spawn, but still...)

    ...I think Lieberman is a flaming ... oh nevermind. I just don't understand why he persists in trying to identify as a Democrat ("independent" or otherwise).

    He identifies as a Dem because he IS a Dem, with an ADA rating of 81, war votes and all. Therein lies a big problem with the Left, especially the Far Left (not saying you're Far Left), Lori. Deviate, however slightly, from The Party Line and you're OUT. I don't like that GroupThink thing...

    One of the things I dislike about so many Republicans is their arrogant attitude that implies that anyone who disagrees with them is less than serious or is immature.

    Actually, we think you're ignorant and don't understand the situation, be it willfully or otherwise. :-)
    One of the things I hate about so many Democrats is they think anyone who disagrees them is e-vile (not a typo). Politics is theology to folks I'd call activists on the Left side of the spectrum, and there's NO room for heresy. And you KNOW I'm right.

    I’ve always believed in the marrow of my bones that this is about oil, money, and power.

    That's very cynical, Lori. Very. If it was about the oil, then why the Hell is gas still over $2.50 a gallon, with forays into and over three dollar territory out there in La-La Land? Or are those evil oil companies just selling free oil to us to maximize their ill-gotten gains? As far as the money and power arguments go, I just can't go there. Daddy Warbucks died along with Little Orphan Annie.

    About the "lies" and safety: I'll not go there except to say (1) the "lies" have been pretty well discredited and (2) there have been no attacks for over five years now.

    I don’t think this war is winnable. Like Vietnam, we don’t seem to understand our enemy very well at all.

    The war probably isn't winnable as long as most people believe it's not. And the majority of Americans apparently are swinging towards your opinion. And that's sad, because we CAN win it, and in a lot of places the war IS being won. I think some of us understand the enemy very well, and it's very apparent to me the enemy understands US, at least the Left side of us, very well, too. And that's perhaps the saddest point of all.

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  12. Bec wrote, of her folks:

    They loved Reagan and have been Republicans ever since.

    No offense to anyone's parents, but will someone please explain to me the fascination with Reagan? I was in the Air Force, stationed in Europe when he was in office, and even counting now there was never a more frightening time. When there was talk of repealing the two-term limit, I was just about out of my mind.

    Meanwhile, my partner was also in the Air Force, intending to make a career of it (she made E-7 in just 9 years), and she voted for Reagan both times. She just about spits when Bush comes on TV, but she still thinks Reagan was just great. We still argue about that. (Actually, I think she simply exhibits that peculiar tendency of those who've voted Republican to never, ever admit they might've made the wrong choice.)

    Buck wrote:

    Two words: Mary Cheney.

    C'mon, Buck! Mary Cheney? Wait, are you implying that she smokes weed? Damn, maybe there's something redeeming about her, afterall. I really wish she would just SAY SOMETHING, anything at all. She's so eerily quiet. Then again, isn't she pregnant? Maybe she's conserving her energy to make Dick and Lynne proud grandparents. (Ha.)

    I've always liked these two words much better: Candace Gingrich. (It's just a shame she's so homely.)

    Regarding gas being "expensive," we in the U.S. have gotten off cheap for far too long, and that includes now. Poor us, paying $2.50 a gallon (I pay $2.73 for premium for the motorcycle) while the rest of the world pays what? Two and three times as much?

    The oil companies play with us, and we play along. I've advocated $5 and $10 a gallon gas in the U.S. for years, because it's way past time that the U.S. stops acting like little piggies and gets real. (There's my liberal streak showing.)

    The only reason I hesitate at all regarding such high gas prices is because of the impact it would have on the working poor. Otherwise, I'd love to see high gas prices force Hummers completely off the road and push automakers to finally invest in making more responsible vehicles. But I digress ...

    I think some of us understand the enemy very well, and it's very apparent to me the enemy understands US, at least the Left side of us, very well, too. And that's perhaps the saddest point of all.

    Touché, Buck. I'll make room for the possibility that you're right and I'm wrong about this. Nonetheless, I'd still like to see some strategy that makes any kind of sense for winning this war, aside from just sending in more troops to fight endless battles. Give us a plan, man ... please.

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  13. I'm late to the party, I see :) Crazy busy here.

    Lori said: "Nonetheless, I'd still like to see some strategy that makes any kind of sense for winning this war, aside from just sending in more troops to fight endless battles. Give us a plan, man ... please."

    A plan? He is about to give us one. I am afraid though that ANY plan he gives is not going to be the one Dems want. It seems like the only plan they want is pull out, we can't win. From what I have heard, it doesn't seem like that is what he is going to say.

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  14. No offense to anyone's parents, but will someone please explain to me the fascination with Reagan?

    This kind of thing impresses them:

    Yelena Bonner, the widow of Soviet dissident Nobel Prize winner Andrei Sakharov, praised Reagan for his tough course toward the Soviet Union.
    “I consider Ronald Reagan one of the greatest U.S. presidents since the World War II because of his staunch resistance to Communism and his efforts to defend human rights,” Bonner said in a telephone interview from her home in Boston. “Reagan’s policy was consistent and precise, and he had a great talent of choosing the right people for his administration.”

    Also, Gorbachev respected and admired him.

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  15. Lori sez: Actually, I think she simply exhibits that peculiar tendency of those who've voted Republican to never, ever admit they might've made the wrong choice.

    I don't think that works for Righties who used to vote Democratic, nu? Coz I freely admit I screwed up, Big Time...I mean, Humphrey, McGovern, CARTER???

    Other than that it looks like we're gonna agree to disagree, again. I'm keeping hope alive for ya, Lori, still and even! :-)

    Thanks for picking up the ball on the Reagan question, Bec. For me, one of the reasons he was so great was his deployment of the GLCM and Pershing missles (in conjunction with Maggie and the Helmuts - Schmidt and Kohl) in the face of the most strident Leftist/Communist opposition EVER seen. I was in the UK at the time, and believe me, that opposition was a sight to see. As you indicated, Bec, Reagan stood firm and was consistent. Less than ten years later the USSR was gone...

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  16. Thanks for picking up the ball on the Reagan question, Bec. For me, one of the reasons he was so great (snip)

    On a more personal note, one of the reasons Reagan wasn't so great was because he turned his back when the AIDS epidemic arrived, apparently because it was more important to him to placate his "religious right"* base.

    The note is personal because I lost my brother to AIDS. My brother never forgave Reagan for his indifference, which hindered treatment and research for years. And I feel the same way my brother did.

    Life isn't all about national or international security, at least not for me. Yes, security is important, but there are other policies (or the lack thereof) that deserve attention too.

    *They should really be known as the "hypocritical wrong."

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  17. On a more personal note, one of the reasons Reagan wasn't so great was because he turned his back when the AIDS epidemic arrived,...

    I didn't know about your brother, Lori, and I'm sad to hear that. That makes the personal nature of your dislike for Reagan easier to understand. I don't know much about Reagan and AIDS, but I am aware that the Left somehow holds Reagan responsible for not stopping the epidemic, or refusing to fund research, or being homophobic, and so on. I find the various charges pretty hard to believe, given the various good qualities the man had. So naturally, I googled "Reagan and AIDS."

    I'd like you to read this, Lori. Here's the final paragraph:

    Could Reagan have said more about AIDS? Surely, and he might have done so were he less focused on reviving America's moribund economy and peacefully defeating Soviet Communism. Could he have done more? Of course. Who could not have? But the ideas that Ronald Reagan did nothing, or worse, about AIDS and hated gays, to boot, are both tired, left-wing lies about an American legend.

    That's the final paragraph. Above those words are facts about the amount of money for AIDS research in Reagan's budgets (with links), links to Reagan quotes on AIDS, his views on gays, etc., etc., which all contradict what you believe about RR. Ultimately, you'll believe what you want to believe, but there IS another side to the story.

    I know there's more in life than national security. I write a lot about it because the subject is important to me at this moment and has been pretty important to me all my life.

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  18. Thanks for the bit on Reagan, Buck. I know it's never as cut and dried as it may seem, and the dude must've had something good going on at least some of the time. But he left me with a bitter taste in my mouth, and not just because of the AIDS thing. He just plain SCARED me, and then to learn later that he was asleep at the wheel at least some of the time ... but I guess that's no worse than what we have now. It's the same thing: neither president is really running the show. It's the guys behind the curtain, and they're actually a lot more frightening.

    Anyway, I think our main difference regarding national security is this: since I was young, at least 14 years of age, I've considered myself more a "citizen of the world" than I have a citizen of the U.S. or any other one nation. Even though I served in the AF and ANG for 10+ years, I never felt gung ho about national security. Particularly when I found myself lying in a field in Germany, playing war games. I thought, "Jesus, if this were real, I'd end up shooting some kid who is as powerless as I am -- and for what?"

    I still feel that way, and that makes me really appreciate a bumpersticker I saw yesterday:

    Fight the rich
    Not their wars

    Yep.

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